Yes

If you're spending time in dungeons in EvE, you deserve everything the FacPo throws at you.

I was referring to the fact that there are no dungeons in EvE. If you want dungeons...WoW is that way. ----->

Oh god not this argument again.

If they were outlaws you would not be losing sec status for initiating combat with them. SInce the people you are shooting are above -5 like yourself, you will lose sec status for shooting them first, unless they are suspect or something.

So you take the law into your own hands? Without investigation? Perhaps they do have a valid reason to be there. Without asking first you cannot tell. By shooting them, and losing sec status, it seems that the facpo do not agree with your law enforcement methods!

This attitude is what keeps your sec status so high. oh wait...

Is it like being in a mission runner's privately instanced dungeon?
I've been told I have no business being there either.
Then I take bunch of 'their' things and go wibbling off into the black.
Either that or they shoot me.

All that aside I was poking fun at your comment about not engaging non flashies and your whining about your low sec status in the same thread

I'm trying to find some kind of sympathy here in myself.
I'm also kind of failing... as whenever I pew in low sec I get hit with sec status hits even though when I pew in high sec I don't. Seems a bit unfair to the 'pirates' that the militia don't seem to suffer the same penalties normally as they do.
Is this a privilege issue?

My mistake. I didn't know that the militias actually lost sec status when they engage each other.
Just have heard similar complaints many times in the past and I never really understood why, as I had assumed that PVP was an integral thing with it. It always struck me as odd that it bothered pvp pilots that people were willing to offer them free pvp.

Alrighty. Consider things from their perspective as well though.
It's low sec space and they've been told by every butthurt carebear EVER to go to low/null if they want pvp.
They do want pvp, so they went.
I understand that you're having your war there, but it doesn't really change the low sec aspect.
For most of them anything that's not blue is a valid target.
I'd consider them an environmental hazard if I were you, don't hate them for it.

They aren't. Neither are we.
You did this thing to you by doing things to them.
I get preemptive self-defense, it's a thing. It just holds the same consequences for you as it does for them.
Tags, get some and turn them in.
I really don't see the problem here after we've sussed everything out in detail.

Did you shoot a non valid lowsec target? By that I mean had more then -5 standing, was not suspect/criminal, did not accept a limited engagement with you, was not a member of your corp if friendly fire is turned on and much more likely was not at war with you? If he was none of these things YOU were the pirate when you shot first HAN

Alrighty, got it.
I'mma put this all simple like.
You are not a special snowflake because you are in FW.
You suffer the same consequences as anyone else in low sec for doing low sec things to other low sec people.
No medals.
Just because your war is sanctioned does not mean it is exempt from looters, bandits and raiders.
Just like any other war ever anywhere.
Taking matters into your own hands justifiably results in the same consequences it does for anyone else, and no... the pirates and pvpers are not going to respect your boundaries.

It is not flawed.
The FW plexes come in 3 different sizes of ships that are allowed to get in.

As the "pirate" enter and positione himself, you can do the same: keep moving in your better position.
As him start to target you, do the same.
If he open fire, you will have your fight with no loss of sec status.

If the "pirate" is not alone (do you watch on D-scan while you are in the plex right?) or he is in a ship that you judge better than yours you have the work to be situational awareness and keep your decisions about fight or run.

Many different is the situation where a militian is only "farming" the plex and pretend to / don't want interferences from outside. But it is not how FW is intended to work. Or Eve itself.

When you joining FW you should expect interferences all the time. Oh well, all the times you undock, FW or not, HS or not you have to expect the possibility to have "interferences". It is how EVE works.

Then run. It's easy.

My suggestion is that you send your thought directly to CCP.
We can't help you more here, after explain you how EVE works.

Hint: even miners in HS knows that mine an asteroid is not ONLY mean to be there to mine with no interferences.

Better forum where expose your point of view as it regards a possible modification of EVE mechanics:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=270

You spent all this time explaining how a pirat is NOT the enemy. Secondly if "He" is establishing perfect range before engaging, then why don't you, ya know, turn on your afterburner and go to your optimal range. Several times I've MWD's my vengeance to face hugger range when Eve U comes in to play since they cannot shoot first.

In any game there are rules and there are workarounds. The workaround in this case is keep the better conditions to win the fight and let him shoot first. If he leave you "win" anyway.

The issue of sec status loss for shooting neutrals inside plexes is a separate and larger issue. I just wanted to point out that in many situations one has to aggress immediately to have a chance at victory.